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by Damozel The New York Times has published an op-ed by Barack Obama calling out the Bush Administration and John McCain for their strange reluctance to leave Iraq now that its government is insisting that we set a deadline for our departure and start packing up to go. It’s good news, isn’t it, he pointedly notes, that our troops’ sacrifices have got them to a point when their government is ready to take off the training wheels and ride off without us holding the handlebars? (NYT) Why, then, are Bush and McCain trying to frame compliance with the Iraqis’ wish that we not overstay our welcome as ’surrender’?

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Isn’t it about as clear as it could possibly be that we can’t go on babysitting them indefinitely, or even very much longer, without severe strain to major muscle groups?

But while McCain temporizes about whether the Iraqis really and truly want us to leave, and whether if they do it means we should go, Obama is being called out for ‘flip-flopping’ buy nolvadex uk because he has said that his 16 month withdrawal date was only ever aspirational.

You know what, I don’t much care whether this is a flip, a flop, a 180, or a 360 degree turn back to the starting place. It doesn’t matter to me. What matters is whether the candidate clearly understands that we need to get out of Iraq, that we need to do so as soon as expeditiously as prevailing circumstances permit, and that to get out at any point, you eventually have to start leaving.

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Well, of course it also matters whether the candidate understands why we need to get out and that we need to get out. Obama does know:

The strain on our military has grown, the situation in Afghanistan has deteriorated and we’ve spent nearly $200 billion more in Iraq than we had budgeted. Iraq’s leaders have failed to invest tens of billions of dollars in oil revenues in rebuilding their own country, and they have not reached the political accommodation that was the stated purpose of the surge. (NYT)

Political reconciliation isn’t going to happen on our watch. In March of this year, Gen. Petraeus expressed dissatisfaction with the progress of political reconciliation between Iraq’s various competing factions. In October of 2007, the Iraqis were keen to let Congress know that the key benchmark — remember those benchmarks? — of political reconciliation was unlikely to occur on any sort of timetable that would be acceptable to the US (see BN-Politics).

“[A] prominent Shiite cleric and parliament member, said any future reconciliation would emerge naturally from an efficient, fair government, not through short-term political engineering among Sunnis and Shiites….”Reconciliation should be a result and not a goal by itself,” he said. “You should create the atmosphere for correct relationships, and not wave slogans that ‘I want to reconcile with you. (WaPo Oct 18 2008)

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This has always made sense to me. It also sheds light on the essential ignorance or arrogance on a military strategy that didn’t stop to learn anything about who the Iraqi people were or of the forces dividing them. The same October 2007 article discussed a fundamental difference in the way that Sunnis and Shiites were defining ‘reconciliation.’

To Sunnis, it tends to mean Shiites will release their grip on decision-making, allow them greater influence in the government, crack down on militants regardless of their sect and promote peaceful cooperation between politicians….

To Shiites, reconciliation is a process fraught with risks that Sunni “supremacists” will attempt to seize their former position of authority over the majority Shiites. Many Shiites believe that reconciliation requires punishing those who, during Saddam Hussein’s government, ruthlessly killed and repressed Shiites and Kurds.(

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